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Numbers are needed because as we saw, you can get shouted over, shouted down, and drawn into losing your cool, when others keep interrupting. At the end were Bhai Jagraj Singh said, "are you going to listen to me or shut up," is where the mission kind of degenerates.

Omg so just one sentence makes the " mission kind of degenerate."

What a joke of a thought. Lol

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Canada is very left wing socialist country and they are even more politically correct than the UK which is quite worrying.

Toronto is the feminist capital of the world and the feminists in general seem to be very quiet on these Islamic misogynists.

The North American continent has CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) which part of the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt. They cannot confront in the open so they use covert methods of infiltrating institutions.

Things have changed Ranjeet. That Prime Minister Canada has got, Stephen Harper, has turned Canada into an affiliation of the Republican Party of America. Canada used to be respected throughout the world for being decent, compassionate and liberal but that right wing hawk of a bas***d Stephen Harper has ruined everything.

As for Muslims in north America....trust me, things are as bad there as they are here....its just that we in England seem to live up to our national stereotype of being complainers and moaners so we tend to articulate things more. I'll give you an example: Have you ever been to the world famous Coney island area of Brooklyn, New York ? I have, and I can tell you that is EXACTLY the same as Bradford. 40 to 50,000 Pakistanis setlled in that small area and everything about it, such as youths into crime and drugs, girls covered up, social conditions etc, is exactly the same as Bradford.

I think jugraj singh went there looking for a confrontation

Its Speakers Corner, akalifauj. The most famous and iconic location for free speech in the world. For 150 years anyone, with anything they'd like to say, goes there with a box, stands on it and gives lectures to the hundreds of thousands of people from around the world who converge there to listen and learn. Jugraj Singh desrves our upmost respect, both for his knowlege and balls.

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Things have changed Ranjeet. That Prime Minister Canada has got, Stephen Harper, has turned Canada into an affiliation of the Republican Party of America. Canada used to be respected throughout the world for being decent, compassionate and liberal but that right wing hawk of a bas***d Stephen Harper has ruined everything.

As for Muslims in north America....trust me, things are as bad there as they are here....its just that we in England seem to live up to our national stereotype of being complainers and moaners so we tend to articulate things more. I'll give you an example: Have you ever been to the world famous Coney island area of Brooklyn, New York ? I have, and I can tell you that is EXACTLY the same as Bradford. 40 to 50,000 Pakistanis setlled in that small area and everything about it, such as youths into crime and drugs, girls covered up, social conditions etc, is exactly the same as Bradford.

Its Speakers Corner, akalifauj. The most famous and iconic location for free speech in the world. For 150 years anyone, with anything they'd like to say, goes there with a box, stands on it and gives lectures to the hundreds of thousands of people from around the world who converge there to listen and learn. Jugraj Singh desrves our upmost respect, both for his knowlege and balls.

The problem with being decent, compassionate and liberal is that you get taken advantage of.

There must be a reason why people would have voted in Harper.

However that would be at a federal level.

The institutions that are in place are a different matter.

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The problem with being decent, compassionate and liberal is that you get taken advantage of.

There must be a reason why people would have voted in Harper.

However that would be at a federal level.

The institutions that are in place are a different matter.

7 years of Harper have completely changed Canada, Ranjeet. Just to give you an example, the Environment was one of the things that the rest of the world most respected Canada for. But that was then. Since then, Stephen Harper has made Canada famous as the first country in the developed world to turn its back on the Kyoto Agreement on Climate Control and the only country in the whole world to turn its back on the UN Convention to Combat Desertification. He passed the Navigable Waters Protection Act, which overnight took the number of rivers and lakes in Canada being protected from 2 and half million to just 159 !!!

But, don't let me leave you with ths misconception that its just in the environmental sector that he has caused the most damage to Canada's reputation. Thanks to 7 years of distasteful right wing politics Canada now has the dubious honour of having more corrupt companies on the World Bank’s blacklist than any other country in the world. The entire world !!!

On the domestic front, he has been viciously cruel on the ordinary working class man, in terms of social security etc. He's done a 'Thatcher' on Canada and in answer to your question as to how come he kept gettiing elected you only have to look at how Thatcher did it.

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Jagraj Singh lost his cool and told a person to shut up. Jugraj Singh should have taken a lesson from Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji on when to have a confrontation and when walking away is not a show of being a coward or show of weakness. Jugraj Singh is standing approximately 50 feet away from the Muslim who is preaching his religion. In the video both (Jugraj Singh and the Muslim) are shouting at the crowd to get attention. How effective is he in this instance to teach Sikhi? Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji was not allowed into Sri Amritsar Sahib by essentially Sikhs. Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib is one of the greatest warriors, hence his name says it all. He fought many battles along side other Sikhs before coming the Guru and did not take a step back in battle. Yet this warrior and Guru did not put up any fight, but turned around and walked away from a confrontation. Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji's objective was to teaching Sikhi. So Guru Sahib took his family and set up shop somewhere else and taught Sikhi.

If Jugraj Singh was there to teaching Sikhi. He could have accomplished this by setting up far enough from the Muslims, where he does not have to shout over the Muslim preaching his religion and teach people who are not looking just to argue with him. The Muslims wanted to argue with Jugraj Singh because this prevents others from asking good questions, which will give them a better understanding of Sikhi. Who set up in that spot first is not an issue because Sri Harmandir Sahib was set up by Guru Sahib himself, yet his ninth form was not allowed to teach there, so he walked away from Sri Harmandir Sahib.

All I was trying to convey with my first post was how Sikhs need to pick there battles.

And I am begging the posters who associated me with a certain jatha to tell me which jatha I am part of. Poster Chatanga long ago was having a discussion over Eka Naari Jatti hova, Poster Chatanga was trying to justify Patna Sahib Jathedar Iqbal Singh having more than one wife at the same time. Poster Chatanga defined Eka as being plural. But when members versed in Gurbani showed him Eka comes in Gurbani to define Vaheguru, he disappeared from the discussion, much like the poster who said a human cannot be a Sant until Gurbani was presented to say a human can be a Sant. So I ask Chatanga, how many Vaheguru`s are there. I only bring this up because the poster chatanga is blaming me for being part of a jatha, when he has not ever been able to say which jatha it is. Yet it is so obvious to tell the very people he supports are corrupting Sikhs minds and are the puppets of Badal. If any of you doubt what I have said about Chatanga, then ask poster Jonny101. Jonny101 has been here long enough to know, who stand where.

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7 years of Harper have completely changed Canada, Ranjeet. Just to give you an example, the Environment was one of the things that the rest of the world most respected Canada for. But that was then. Since then, Stephen Harper has made Canada famous as the first country in the developed world to turn its back on the Kyoto Agreement on Climate Control and the only country in the whole world to turn its back on the UN Convention to Combat Desertification. He passed the Navigable Waters Protection Act, which overnight took the number of rivers and lakes in Canada being protected from 2 and half million to just 159 !!!

But, don't let me leave you with ths misconception that its just in the environmental sector that he has caused the most damage to Canada's reputation. Thanks to 7 years of distasteful right wing politics Canada now has the dubious honour of having more corrupt companies on the World Banks blacklist than any other country in the world. The entire world !!!

On the domestic front, he has been viciously cruel on the ordinary working class man, in terms of social security etc. He's done a 'Thatcher' on Canada and in answer to your question as to how come he kept gettiing elected you only have to look at how Thatcher did it.

There does seem to be position in Canada where there is a strive to be more capitalist, obviously Harper has tapped into that particular sentiment along with the lobby groups that would be supporting him.

I have concerns with the fracking Tar Sands in Alberta with all the environmental impact that will create.

Canada has some analogies with the UK (some say that it is 20-30 years behind). If you ask a Tory or someone on the right of the political spectrum regarding pre-Thatcher period they would tell you that they had 3 day working week, 98 percent tax rate, electricity black outs. (If my dad was still alive I would ask him if this is true or a load of BS). They would tell you that the tax rates were so high that it was not profitable to stay in UK.

I was listening to a podcast to a Canadian called Gavin McInnes (the fellow who founded VICE) who is from Montreal and he mentioned something quite similar as he has moved to the U.S.

I feel that this is moving off - topic.

Moderators,

You need to re - structure the format of this forum. There are a lot of interesting topics here and there are some great posters here and it needs to be organised better.

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