Akal Takht Jathedar declares NivairJatha, Dhadriwale and Harinder ANTISIKH

[kcmidlands]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

The one thing that really got to me was some of the "sevadaars" with some power would only give tableh and harmoniums during kirtan training to the young boys who allowed them to be touchy-feely. Those of us who didn't like that bakwaas had to sit and watch at the side for hours as everyone else was getting acquainted with the instruments. Ever since I was born I wanted to perform kirtan, etc., but if the price for instruction was molestation by a creep, then I'm proud to say I can't play the tableh or the baaja to save my life, lol. 5hit like that ruins kids' dreams. I knocked that kirtan stuff on the head, but somehow still managed to retain my loyalty for the Guru. 8 years old and getting red-pilled about the realities of life. It's messed up.

The whole things a mess, Gurbani and learning Kirtan isn't the property of the few, my own opinion is it's for all, if you follow Sikhi (whether you are amritdhari or not) you should be able to learn and thus connect with waheguru, those that are left out are taken advantage of by groups like NKJ, they'll follow blindly like sheep and believe their narrative because they tried the "proper" route and were pushed to one side because they weren't in the club (which, in itself, goes against the whole principle of a Gurdwara).

There are Dera's all over Punjab that take advantage of kid's like this and groom them into their way of thinking, people like Dhadrianwale have huge following and after a while gain the support of politician's because they can make their followers vote for who they want, this is the position Ram Rahim got to (I'm not comparing Dhadrianwale with him but the principle is the same) and now the same stuff's happening in the UK, like i said before, people are sheep.

[jkvlondon]

the whole kirtan instrument thing is all about who the ustad can boast on the back of , if you have an advanced or gifted student you can bask in the reflected glory of the person's past work not just current teaching. This whole granthi/sewadar thing is happening because we do not pay them sufficient wages to bring their families with them , it becomes an excuse for the bad behaviour . Gurudwarey should have a proper post of granthi which lasts years not months to ensure quality

[S1ngh]

Story of rags to riches and then the ultimate fall.

[dallysingh101]

10 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Sorry, I've only ever been kept down by people of my racial and religious background. Whites have always given me a fair shake of the stick.

I don't think that that reflects any sort of general trend though. Maybe the whites think you are cuddly and easily 'winoverable'?

Apnay in general are sociopathic, and that constant desire to outcompete your own is what you've been experiencing I guess. It's something we need to face up to and change in our community.    

[dharamyudh]

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[Kaurr]

3 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

 Also my dad told me a story when he was younger. This was in the 80s, probably mid or late. Used to be a Jatha called the Bhindranwale Jatha (From what he told me) Which was a Jatha from India, which supposedly had ties to Sant Ji. So these guys were respectable figures. And these guys attended Smethwick gurdwara back then. Well, somebody told my dad to follow. They go through this alley way, enter a room. He told me he cracked the door open and saw these guys laid out drunk with bottles. Their paghs were rolled across the ground. 

oof. That's concerning. Imagine if someone new to sikhi saw these people as great people and wanted spend more time with them to learn about sikhi, that would probably put them off.

[MisterrSingh]

6 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't think that that reflects any sort of general trend though. Maybe the whites think you are cuddly and easily 'winoverable'?

I knew that would upset you. I'm not a ar5e-licker or a coconut, so don't try to play that cr4p with me.

[jkvlondon]

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[Ranjeet01]

9 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I knew that would upset you. I'm not a ar5e-licker or a coconut, so don't try to play that cr4p with me.

It is quite an eye opener to see the level of nepotism amongst our people and the crab bucket mentality when you are told to trust your own, only for the racist gora to give you the leg up.

[jkvlondon]

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