Ukraine-Russia crisis

[dallysingh101]

Be careful what you wish for. Looks like Boris's dream job is tougher than he imagined. 

[BhForce]

11 hours ago, proactive said:

Guru Gobind Singh understood that only certain types of people can become warriors, those who worked the soil and those who worked with their hands.

I understand what you're saying, but I disagree with it.

The old Indian concept was that of division among the 4 varans: Scholar/priest, warrior/administrator, businessman, and servant.

Guru Gobind Singh ji's concept was:
ਚਾਰ ਵਰਨ ਇੱਕ ਵਰਨ ਕਰਾਊਂ ... ਤਬਹੀ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਮ ਕਹਾਊਂ।
"I will make the 4 varanas one, only then will I be known as Gobind Singh."

What happens in a society without any level of cross-training is the "scholars" become totally detached from the realities and necessities of the society. Which is what happened in American society and is happening is Sikh society.

Also, if the warriors are only warriors and don't have any love of Gurbani then they will become violent animals.

Now, everybody doesn't need to be a full-on scholar, warrior, businessman, or servant. But everybody should have some level of familiarity with all of those. Now things are totally imbalanced.
 

11 hours ago, proactive said:

Before anyone should be allowed to take Amrit, especially the men between the ages of 18-45, they should have to show that they have an interest in keeping fit

This is a good idea.

[BhForce]

9 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I was talking to some Ghanian business men and teachers a while ago, and they have a lot of migration to that place from black people from UK/US etc. and are welcomed to help develop the economy over there. 

The problem, and the difference, is that they have their own country. I realize that some things we still could do. But how much confidence could you have to invest in Punjab when you know the central govt could take it all away in a second with confiscation, nationalization, or a change in law or regulations? Even ones which aren't Punjab-specific, but still ruin the investment.

[BhForce]

15 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

If there is one thing that can be learnt is that there should be a level of self-sufficiency.

That's exactly what not only Sikhs but also old-school non-Sikhs in Punjab do. They have a year's worth of grain in a pantry and mill it as necessary. Among other preparations.

We've forgotten that.

[proactive]

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

That's exactly what not only Sikhs but also old-school non-Sikhs in Punjab do. They have a year's worth of grain in a pantry and mill it as necessary. Among other preparations.

We've forgotten that.

Probably 99.99999% of people in the west would not be able to survive more than a few weeks if there was civilisational collapse. 

[Ranjeet01]

3 hours ago, BhForce said:

That's exactly what not only Sikhs but also old-school non-Sikhs in Punjab do. They have a year's worth of grain in a pantry and mill it as necessary. Among other preparations.

We've forgotten that.

The reason why some institutions in part try to promote international trade is to promote inter-dependance so that one party cannot take advantage as they are part of a chain and if you mess up one cog of this chain, the whole chain gets messed up.

You see some of these "modern" processes called "Just In Time" where you don't hold storage so you keep your inventory costs low.

Now if this works, it's great. But what Covid has shown is the fragility of this system.

The West in it's hubris thought that if you take Russia out of the chain that Russia would collapse with the sanctions. 

But they underestimated their own fragility. 

Russia holds the gas supplies to Europe as well as many other raw materials and as well as a lot of the wheat exports.

When this conflict ends, the Russians are going to hit their own sanctions in industries that matter.

What is closing down McDonald's and KFC and other luxury stores is going to do Russia?

Anyone can replicate opening a burger joint or a pizza joint.

Germany closed down their nuclear stations and went into renewables.

Their energy costs have tripled. 

The West is going to get a big kick up the backside. Nobody cares about green issues when you struggle to grow your own food or heat your homes.

[BhForce]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The reason why some institutions in part try to promote international trade is to promote inter-dependance so that one party cannot take advantage as they are part of a chain and if you mess up one cog of this chain, the whole chain gets messed up.

Before the British invasion, all of our villages were self-sufficient. Other than, maybe going to Lahore to buy fine silk for a wedding. But you can survive without that. Grains, milk, proteins were available in the village. So too, wood, leather and iron products.(made by tarkhans, chamars, and lohars).

[BhForce]

 

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

What is closing down McDonald's and KFC and other luxury stores is going to do Russia?

 

I mean, if "McDonalds" leaves Russia, why would Russians care? The physical restaurants will still be there. If "McDonalds" doesn't want to grill burgers, why couldn't the Russians just take over the restaurants and grill burgers?

If you say that the West would retaliate by appropriating Russian assets, it already did that. So what would the Russians have to fear?

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, proactive said:

Probably 99.99999% of people in the west would not be able to survive more than a few weeks if there was civilisational collapse. 

3 days no water. 3 weeks no food. Assuming you navigate the violence well. 

[dallysingh101]

UK is facing bigger economic shock than 1973 oil crisis that could leave families £1,750 worse off as energy prices soar and ban on Russian imports is set to pile on more pressure

• An economic shock worse than the 1973 oil crisis could hit Britain this summer as fuel prices march upwards
• Rocketing inflation and rising oil prices could hit Britons in their pockets as food prices also rise fast
• Tory MPs have warned over the Government's policy response to the crisis, amid fears inflation could hit 8

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10595965/UK-facing-bigger-economic-shock-1973-oil-crisis-MPs-warn.html