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WJKK WJKF Das needs some help straightening out his thoughts and thought he would ask for the advice of sangat. This is a bit of a spiel, I apologize in advance. I'm 21 years old and have no discipline what so ever. It's changing now mostly because of Guru Kirpa, I always do ardaas before doing anything and have been getting up for amritvela regularly now. It's even changed my studies as I tend to procrastinate less and actually do work ahead of time. I'm so happy that Guru sahib has taken mercy on me, but I feel very depressed it has taken so long for me to grow up. I'm in my fourth year of uni and even though my grades are not bad, they are not top notch either. I'm not stupid, I can be quite smart when I'm focused (guru kirpa). But why did it take so long? I took amrit 3 years ago, with grace of Guru ji, I have had the kirpa of doing sangat of many of the greatest gursikhs and only now am I finally stable. My studies, gurbani studies, music, physical activity all have been in limbo. I feel like I've wasted my life. Realistically I have a few years of education left and then work and quickly after marriage. What do I have to offer to a wife and children. I feel like I'm worthless. I've loved music as a child and got the best marks in the school and awards for music. But after grade 10ish when teachers stop pushing you and expect you to grow up, my life fell apart. People tried to push me to work hard but I could never do it. It was always "Ok I will", I got motivated, and hen fell apart again. So now, Im about to finish education, ok to good grades (only with kirpa), if I land a good job it will only be through immense kirpa, and I have no kirtan/music/limited gurbani skills. I feel so devastated that I ruined my life because I was lazy and undisciplined. How pathetic is that? I go to the sangat and see gursikhs who have so much kirpa on them, and understand guru sahib does everything for a reason, and that I did come into sikhi later in life and don't have the best environment (not very sikhi based family), but... and here's the problem. Is it me? Is it that my karma have pushed me in this direction? Is this what god has written for me? Or is this my fault for not taking advantage of the chances and resources given to me. Is this just a hindsight is 20/20 deal or is this how my life was supposed to play out? I feel very...crushed right now. Not hopeless because I know Guru ji will always help, but I feel like such a disappointment. Is this tere bane Sarbat ka Bhala? Is this what was best for me for this life? I feel like I'm attributing blame to guru ji which is the last thing I should be, but I need to make sense of these things so I can move on from here. My life will get better, With guru kirpa i think I am at a point where i wont fall to far again, but in order to grow I need to sort this out. I don't have anyone I feel I can ask this except the SS forum which has helped me in the past. So daas begs for a little budhi, some kind words, and harsh words are welcomed as well as I probably deserve them.

WJKK WJKF, Hope your all good. I wanted to share a problem of mine which is frustrating me. Im happy with my body apart from my arms and shoulders. The main problem is that they have become quite thin , causing me to feel weak and anorexic. In addition to this, i am also having trouble getting rid of my stomach fat. I need urgent advice on how to add muscle/fat to my arms and shoulders. I am currently undertaking Boxing and MMA lessons and need to know what exercises/cardio workouts i can do to get mass on my arms and shoulders. I am unable to use the gym aswell due to financial difficulties as i am already paying for boxing and mma. Thanks

You guys do know that Delhi compaired to other cities is the city with the highest Sikh population? No other city comes close to the Sikh population of Delhi in the whole world. Also there are many historic Gurughars located there. So why is the need to be silly and make these immature remarks? Or will our Sikh brothers/sisters not be affected. Not to mention all of the ithasic Gurdwareh.

Throw everything on waheugru jee.. Seriously, you need to keep that much trust that whenever you worry about something just think that waheguru jee is there to worry about it and will take care of it.. The only stuff we need to do is to follow his path and try to improve our self everyday.

Finally, a Sikh leader with a backbone. http://www.sikhchic....?cat=26&id=3781 Lord INDARJIT SINGH To Teji Bindra New York, USA 25-10-12 Dear Tejinder ji, Sat Sri Akal Re: Sikh Heritage Arts Gala 2012 I am writing to inform you that I will not be attending the Sikh Arts and Film Festival. When Dr Narinder Singh Kapany informed me that Sikhs in New York wished to honour me for becoming the first turbaned Sikh in the British Parliament, I agreed. I was given to understand that it would be at a function of Sikh Heritage Awards. I now learn from the detailed Programme sent me that it is a Festival of Indian Films with dinner and dance in the presence of dignitaries from and representatives of the Indian government. This festive event coincides with the anniversary of the government planned systematic slaughter and rape of thousands of Sikhs throughout the length and breadth of India following the assassination of Indira Gandhi, commencing with Rajiv Gandhi's broadcast incitement of "khoon ka badla khoon" - "Exact blood for blood". ( An official in Africa recently received a lengthy jail term from the International Criminal Court for lesser incitement). Ever since 1984, I have campaigned tirelessly for those responsible for this genocide against Sikhs to be brought to justice through articles in the Sikh Messenger , the Journal of Amnesty International, articles in the Times, the Guardian and other British, French, American and Arabic journals and in radio and TV broadcasts. My effort and those of many others for the Indian government to respect civilised norms and bring those responsible to justice have simply fallen on deaf ears. In the circumstances, I hope you will understand why on the anniversary of this massacre, I cannot join you with your guests from the Indian government. My apologies for any inconvenience. Kind regards Dr. Indarjit Singh ( Lord Singh of Wimbledon)

So, is milk from stores right for Sikhs to drink? i've read that all the male calves are shot dead. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2152402/Viewers-outrage-harrowing-scenes-day-old-calves-shot.html video of calves being shot on a dairy farm. or they are raised for meat, kept in small boxes. when the dairy cows get old they are culled. also i've read that the milk has antibiotics, pus and other unsafe things in it. so is the milk ethical/right for a Sikh to drink? which milk in the U.K isn't produced with the death of animals?

I don't think you'll find an answer to this. I myself asked many Gursikhs, used to be really horrified by it all and wouldn't touch dairy products after finding out the reality of it all. But no Sikh could give me an answer lol. Some of them even said, "Bhai **** Singh drinks milk and he's a chardi kala Gursikh so you know" lol clearly people just don't get it. I went vegan for half a year but unfortunately I couldn't keep up with a balanced diet and, already being really skinny, I lost tooo much weight. People may drink soya milk etc but they don't cut out other dairy products like cheese, pizza, chocolate and even some breads. So we're all actively taking part in this cruelty. I only drink organic milk but I realise that by eating other dairy products, I'm part of the horrible industry too.

Hi! I'm from Texas and I was wondering if anyone volunteer to help me practice my nitnem everyday? I keep going through phrases when I'm very disciplined and and then I fall out of it when life gets busy. But I know there isn't an excuse. I know I may be asking alot- someone to remind me and encourage me, call me and recite nitnem with me everyday...just until I can do it on my own..but I'm sure I could help motivate you too! I really love our sikhi path!...and I just want to be consistent with it in my daily routine. Anyone? Please?

WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh Khalsa Ji I was recently blessed with Amrit and I'm having difficulty taking care of the kakaars while I'm doing Ishnaan. Can you please share how you take care of the kakaars. I always have them with me in the shower but my kanga gets wet...Can you please share your techniques so the ishnaan will be quicker and smoother. Thanks!

Deep.

That gives me an idea.... If we could get everyone in Punjab to eat nothing but rajma chawal for one whole week, we could cover Delhi in flatulence. Take that Sheila Dikshit. Sorry for crude humor, but I can't take anything that lady says seriously. I mean, just look at what her last name is. Dikshit.

In no particular order... Back To The Future The Rocky Horror Picture Show Aliens Star Wars Toy Story Man, it's hard just selecting 5 only but I KNOW that Back To The Future is going to be in any movie list. Such an awesome film!!!!

The biggest problem with us is that we think others are like us too. Wake up Khalsa jee, others are NOT like us. We have a Pooran SatGuru who gave us character, who taught us to be just even in times of strife. Can the others look up their history and say the same about those they worship? Wake up, don't expect others to have your level of deen-imaan, your kind of integrity, your type of Khalsaaee kadar-keemat. We have our Gurdev Pita jee Sahib-E-Kamaal Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj, the one and only personality on this planet who did bhagti in bir rass. Anyone else qualifies? NO! Wake up, no one else has the sense of belonging the way we do, we belong only to our Gurdev Pita jee. Who do others belong to? Whose tokens of love do they carry the way we carry our kakaars? We are blessed with a saroop because we carry a responsibility. Does anyone else qualify? NO! Wake up! Stop trusting just about anyone because they are nice from time to time. Stop expecting others to be the way you are because you are a different breed since you are to abide by a mandatory norm. When Dasmesh Pita jee said that Khalsa is to stay niyaara, it also means that no one else is like the Khalsa. No one else has the kind of character that Khalsa has, no one else has deen-imaan, kadar-keemat the way Khalsa does, no one else has a satkaarjog saroop that Khalsa has. All these people around you are under NO obligation to be the best human beings, but you blessed Khalsas will have the sweet burden of that Guru-given duty on your head till you die. Wake up! Love all, trust a few, but have no expectations from anyone Khalsa jee, because Khalsa lives a life of commitment to our SatGuru Patshah jee, others tend to live a life they at times find aimless and can't define even themselves. Wake up! There is way we are expected to live in society, and that was given to us by our param pyaare SatGuru Patshah jee long before these man-made handwritten laws were created or implemented. I am not asking you to look down upon anyone, or to hate anyone, or to dislike anyone, or to degrade or put anyone down. I am only begging you to please be niyaare in every aspect of your lifestyle. And I am only rebuking myself to stand up and be who and what I am, NOT who and what the world wants to see me as. - Mehtab Singh

karma is not given to you by the guru, it is something that you create for your self through repeated actions in this life and from past lives. you can improve your karma through seva, simran, and sadhsangat. a good organisation system helps a lot. i find that if the first thing i do in the day is good productive work, it sets the tone for the day to be productive. but if i check email first, or facebook etc, then its an uphill battle. there are also shabads that you can recite that will help get rid of laziness.

I wonder what excuse Congress Party is going to give this time. They are opposed to Bluestar memorial because they claim it honors militants, but why are they opposed to 1984 memorial? The scores of innocent Sikhs killed during the three day, government sponsored massacre, where not militants.

The potential for life is still there. In the wild, all those eggs would be fertilized. And the reason we Indian's believe that milk is okay, is because people raised the Indians raised the cows themselves, so there was no animal cruelty. So now, we should make sure to get milk from organic, free range, places. Or otherwise if we stop milk usage, there will be no prasaad, as it is made from butter............. Eggs unfertilized or not, contain animal proteins, which are sort of like cannibalism.

Say Hakuna Matata in a Sri Lankan accent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8UcwMBwfAE This film can only be made with sangat's support http://www.justgivin...va84documentary Seva84 (reg. Charity 1147843) is commissioning a high profile, professionally produced documentary specifically highlighting: - The November 1984 Sikh Genocide - The Drug and poverty related problems within the colonies where victims of 1984 are now living This documentary will be part of a wider international documentary which aims to: - Raise global awareness to an audience beyond the Sikh community by communicating to the world that Sikhs in India suffered genocide during November 1984. - A documentary of this nature is likely to encourage non government organisations to reach out and develop a partnership with Seva84, to improve the standard of living (largely for those directly affected by the Genocide, which includes their families). We would like to ensure that the newer generations are not reliant on support, as our main aim is to enable the residents of the colonies to be self sufficient, to an extent that they are able to independently maintain an improved standard of living that is above the poverty line. This can only be done with your help. To support the making of the Documentary Film: http://www.justgivin...va84documentary to support our projects to help combat drugs and crime, and to promote health, education and Gursikhi please set up monthly donations at: www.seva84.com/donate **if you would like Seva84 to claim gift aid on your donations please email contact@seva84.com** http://www.justgivin...va84documentary

The screen on the back features the Khanda throughout the song,which talks about world peace. :D

Well traditinally im a Christian guy who has been, lived with many sikh people. 1) I really like the way Sikhism has done for the betterment of the world like offereinng food to those who are not of their religion but satisfy their souls & body its so magnificent ,there are people who don't care for their prents ,& the other side there are people who feed a stranger 2) I have never seen a Sikh being a supramicist over race or color as its the first non-hindu religion religion in asia to accept the down-trodden "dalit" people ,so it has done a great deal in ending the racist culture in India & starting an equal social change 3) Sikh are so religious , the offerings they pour to the gurud-wara (i hope im spelling it right) is so magnificient ,they give it with open hearts. I have never been felt like im an outsider likewise i felt with Muslim people. Islamits share our religious beliefs but have always treated us badly. There are some stupid Christian people who behave supreme without even knowing what Lord jesus really taught us to be equal. This is my step towars the sikh community as an appreacitaion they have done to the community or the great human race ( without discriminating between races ,religions ,color ,wealth,etc) I'd like to know more about your culture. I hope i am welcomed here .

Here is a quick photoshop sketch of Bhai SURINDER Singh Sodhi, saw some old photos and thought would be nice to do something modern with these images to engage young sikhs into finding out who these people are..... sorry Bhai Surinder singh sodhi - bit dyslexic so words come out with diferent letters soemtimes - apoligies Taran

Jaap Sahib and Akaal Ustat are beautiful! It's so inspiring and touching with the way the chands flow together. I've listened to Akaal Ustat and try to read Jaap Sahib when I can. Am hoping to listen to the Katha of Giani Thakur Singh Jee about Jaap Sahib

Remember the first rule Of Kabaddi Club? You NEVER EVER wear a patka, only a small guti, to look like a grown mid-twenties 8 year old.

Godfather - Genius from Copolla. You come for the violence but you stay for the family drama. Kill Bill - A beautiful story about badla (revenge). My sisters could do a lot worse to watch and learn how a woman can handle herself. I know it's a Hollywood movie and far from our reality, but the core message (IMO) is that women are more than what society has conditioned them to be.

1) A Tale Of 2 Sisters (Korean) 2) Higher Learning (American) 3) Bruce Lee - Big Boss (Hong Kong) 4) Trainspotting (British) 5) Long Da Lishkara (Panjabi) no particular order, my fave genre of films is British films and Japanese/Korean Horror Films (which always get awfully re-made by hollywood).

Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh I WAS THINKING OF HAVING SRI DASAM GRANTH AT MY HOME SO I HAD A QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT SHOULD I DO PRAKASH OF SRI DASAM GRANTH OF KEEP THEM IN CUPBOARD....... THANKS IN ADVANCE..... Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

When combing my kesh and if there are tangles the tangles are left over in the brush once I take them out I put all the kesh that has fallen out wrapped up and put in an empty tissue box. Can I chuck the hair away or would it be disrespectful? How should I dispose them? Thanks.

look at this keerda...he needs to be dealt with in same manner as suraj mani

WJKK WJKF I believe this is my first post on this forum so please go easy. Just a bit of background before I go into my question. I am a 26 year old Sikh- born in India but moved overseas when I was young and just finished university in Australia. I used to eat eggs and meat but stopped before taking Amrit a few years back. I have not eaten any more meat or eggs since then and neither do I have any cravings to do so (just in case people try to say that is my motivation for starting this thread). Now this question is a result of having some discussions with some of my Australian friends who asked me why it is that I as a Sikh have chosen to refrain from eating eggs along with meat? Now the meat part for me is easy. Even though from what I know of the Rehat Maryada it is only specifically forbidden for Sikhs to eat Halal meat, from a personal point of view I am against eating meat because it is taking the life away from an animal. However in terms of eggs I had trouble explaining the reason. Almost all commercially sold eggs (esp overseas) are unfertilised. They are the normal by products of a hen's reproductive cycle. There is no actual loss of life (i.e. the hen) and there is no potential loss of life (i.e. there is no embryo as the egg is not fertilised). Also in free range eggs there is usually little other harm done to the hen. So why do most Sikhs who do not eat meat also don't eat eggs? Sikhs are not vegans. We eat animal products (eg. cheese, milk, honey) as long as it does not cause any loss of life. So technically how is it any different from drinking milk? From my limited knowledge I do not believe it states in Gurbani or the Rehat Maryada that Sikhs should not eat eggs. But if someone can point me in the right direction that would be very much appreciated (especially specific shabads). Once again this is an honest question and I would appreciate all responses as this has been nagging me for a while. And if you could please answer specifically in terms of eggs and not meat (which I already explained my view) that would be fantastic as a similar thread a few years back got side tracked because everyone just started talking about meat. Thank you to all who reply. WJKK WJKF.

Please read attachment I was sent. Msg_Dundha.pdf Vaheguru Jee Kaa Khalsa Vaheguru Jee Kee Fateh It has come to light that the controversial figure named Sarbjeet Singh Dundha is doing Katha Divans in the UK at this moment in time. It has come apparent that he may attend some Gurdwara Sahibs in the Birmingham/Coventry area for Katha Divans. Naujawan Gursikhs affiliated with Damdami Taksal and Akhand Kirtani Jatha are against this individual from doing Katha. Please any Nauwajan Veer/Bhen think of the Kaum and unite of this issue. All UK Youth are together on this and no Jathabandi is for this individual. Do not listen and fall for rumours/lies that one group is supporting this guy. The reason for this message is to show those that are trying to split the youth even further, have another thing coming. We will not break and argue, we are all agree that Sarbjeet Singh Dundha can’t do Seva here. It is not the right time for him do be doing Katha due to all the anomalous comments he has said and the Sangat he keeps of the Kala Afghana and Singh Sabha Canada groups. If Dunda jee changes his veechar and reforms himself then maybe next time he can do Seva here. It is that very strange that this banter has started, at the time of us remembering the Genocide that took place in November 1984 and the upcoming Bandhi Chor Divas which is fast approaching. We leave you with a quote from Sant Jarnail Singh jee Bhindranwala Unite under the Kesri Nishaan Sahib, stoutly support the Panth, and be attached to Siri Guru Granth Sahibs Throne and Guru's Darbar;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQRiEclSt_Q

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/10/19/jonathan-kay-three-decades-after-operation-bluestar-deadly-sikh-radicalism-still-stalks-western-streets/ The words “Operation Bluestar” are little known in the West. But in South Asia, the Indian army’s June, 1984 invasion of the Sikh Golden Temple in Amritsar is considered one of the most important, and infamous, events in the region’s modern history. Many Sikh activists call it a “massacre” — and even compare it to the Sikh holocaust perpetrated by the Mughals 250 years ago. To this day, Bluestar represents a rallying point for Sikh militants seeking greater autonomy from India. In truth, bloody though it was, Bluestar cannot be called a deliberate pogrom. In the years leading up to the assault, Sikh separatists and radicals had turned much of the Punjab into a war zone — with peaceable Sikhs being the primary victims of the chaos. Amidst the upheaval, the Golden Temple — which contains the holy text of Sikhism, the Guru Granth Sahib — was taken over by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, a charismatic Sikh fundamentalist (some saw him as a full-on prophet) who’d surrounded himself by gun-weilding zealots. Indira Gandhi, the Prime Minister (who later paid with her life for the events that would unfold at her command in 1984) realized that the situation in Punjab was untenable. Some feared that Pakistan, which already was making common cause with India’s hardline Sikhs, would recognize the independence of a breakaway Khalistani state, should one be declared, and send soldiers into Indian territory. Khalistani separatists were beginning to distribute their own currency. It was clear that taking the temple back from the zealots was a national imperative for India. And so Gandhi sent in the army. Bhindranwale and hundreds of his fighters went down fighting inside the temple compound. Many innocents — pilgrims whom Bhindranwale effectively had taken hostage — also were among the victims. The Indian military estimated that about 500 civilians died in the crossfire. Unofficial tallies are an order of magnitude higher. Yet Bluestar was in no way intended as a campaign of extermination by Hindus against Sikhs, even if that is how it is sometimes presented in propaganda tracts. In fact, the military commander of the Bluestar operation was himself a Sikh: Lieutenant-General Kuldip Singh Brar, a veteran of the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war. A majority of his senior commanders also were Sikhs. In a series of interviews he conducted in 2004, on the 20th anniversary of Bluestar, Gen. Brar said that he saw no conflict between his duty to his nation and his religious faith: I am religious but in moderation. I am not a person who has to be in a temple every single day, but I have a fear of God. I respect religion, and respect the fact that I am a Sikh. But as I said earlier, a Sikh or a Hindu has no meaning here [in the armed forces]. You don’t even think about it. You are convinced you are not acting against any religion but against a section of misguided people [led by Bhindranwale] who have held the country to ransom, who are ready to fragment this country. Nor was Gen. Brar the only Sikh in the Indian military who felt this way. Prior to the assault on the Golden Temple, Gen. Brar announced to his men that if any one of them did not feel he could participate in the operation, he should step forward and leave the staging area without fear of reprisal. “In the fourth battalion, one hand went up,” the former commander recalls. “It belonged to a Sikh officer, Second Lieutenant Jasbir Singh Raina … [He] had a request: he wanted to be the first person to enter the Golden Temple to wipe the militants who had defiled his holiest shrine. I was very happy and [said] that Raina must be allowed to lead the first charge. The moment Raina entered, he came under a withering fire and suffered serious injuries to his legs. Yet, he refused to pull out … Months later, when he received the Ashoka Chakra [the highest bravery award in peace times], he came to receive the award in a wheelchair. I had tears in my eyes.” Gen. Brar retired from the Indian Army in 1992. But civilian life proved just as hazardous as life in the military: In the years following Bluestar, militant Sikhs went on a spree of assassination attempts against commanders who’d been involved in the operation. Gen. Brar lives in a well- guarded compound, and spends much of his time radical monitoring Sikh web sites with names such as “Kill Brar.” The former commander also is dismayed to see a resurgence of exactly the sort of Sikh radicalism he sought to extinguish back in 1984. “There are increasing signs of the youth in Punjab being motivated and indoctrinated by hardcore pro-Khalistan elements abroad,” he told an interviewer earlier this month. “This is happening, particularly in the US, Canada, UK and West Europe by glorifying the deeds of the Bhindranwale cult and by circulating doctored footage of Operation Bluestar … Pakistan’s Intelligence agency ISI is also collaborating with pro-Khalistan cells abroad to propagate the ideology of separatism.” Much of this is happening right out in the open. Recently, Gen. Brar notes, a memorial function was held inside the Golden Temple complex — with the honorees being the men who assassinated Gen. A.S. Vaidya, a fellow Bluestar commander. And here in Canada, Sikh activists earlier this year staged a noisy public campaign called “I am Rajoiana” — a reference to an unrepentant Sikh terrorist, Balwant Singh Rajoana, who masterminded the killing of a Punjab chief minister (who himself was a Sikh). At Sikh parades in British Columbia, other Sikh killers have been memorialized as “martyrs” on parade floats. This month, while Gen. Brar was in London, England on a private trip with his wife, a group of four people attacked him near the east end of Oxford Street. In the melée, he was knifed in the neck and face, but survived without life-threatening injuries. British police arrested a dozen suspects. Two are being charged with intent to do grievous bodily harm. The crime itself is shocking. But it’s also disturbing to see that the Sikh community in England is divided in its reaction to it. A Tribune India reporter who visited Southall (aka “Little Punjab”) in recent days interviewed some moderate Sikhs who found the attack on Gen. Brar to be appalling. But others embraced conspiracy theories to the effect that the assault was a “false flag” operation, hatched by India as a means to discredit Sikhs. Here in Canada, similar anti-Indian conspiracy theories circulated in regard to the destruction if Air India Flight 182 in 1985. The fact that men such as Gen. Brar still live in fear for their life 28 years after the Bluestar operation shows that murderous violence has become institutionalized within radical Sikh circles. This radicalism, and the general schisming of the Sikh diaspora into Khalistani and non-Khalistani factions, is damaging Sikhism as much as anything that happened in 1984. Yet Gen. Brar himself tells an interesting, personal tale about such schisms — and how they can heal on a personal level. My own mama [mother’s brother] who lives in London — he didn’t keep long hair, he used to smoke, visit pubs, and I used to stay with him whenever I was visiting the UK — suddenly changed [in the 1980s]. He began to grow his hair and beard; he used to regularly participate in the functions at Southall [in London] where the Sikhs vowed revenge [for Bluestar]; he went to Pakistan; he swore he’d have never have anything to do with me. He broke ties with my parents — his own sister. [but] then, just three years ago, I was in London and found out he was dying of cancer. I decided I must see him and went to the hospital. The staff told me he had about 24 to 48 hours to live. When they informed him of my presence, he told them to bring me to his bedside and he held my hand; he had tears rolling down his cheeks and he told me he now understood I had to do whatever I did. The recollection provides a hopeful symbol of the spirit of reconciliation that, one hopes, will eventually render Sikh political violence a thing of the past. Like Gen. Brar and his late uncle, Khalistani Sikhs — in the Punjab, Canada and everywhere else — should step back and look at what their cause has done to their communities and even their families. In that respect, this month’s shameful knife attack on a 78-year-old man, walking the streets of London with his wife, perhaps can serve as a wake-up call. jkay@nationalpost.com — Jonathan Kay is Managing Editor for Comment at the National Post, and a fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Follow him on Twitter @jonkay. Adapted from an article originally published by New Europe.

Put a positive spin on it: I wasted all these years, but no longer. From now on I will do my best. Whatever happened in the past is done ( and was ur fault, In my opinion if we do anything bad or worthless, then it was cause of free will and is our fault, but is we do something good, like seva, it was a blessing). Now you have to make sure, how many years of life are left, you do not waste. P.S. Thanks for the post, it was a wake up call, i have the procrastinating problem as well, n thought, i'll become disciplined in the future, but i didn't reckon on the regret/guilt..........Thanks again.

This is what we are saying- that it's NOT a fetus !! Sounds weird, I know, I only learnt of this within the last year and it got me thinking. You see it's just like the lining that develops in a human female. This lining is every 28 days and if no egg is fertilised then it is just a waste prodeuct that is eliminated ie.. the monthly bleed. So you undertstand that NO fetus is bled or eliminated. In the same way the egg is eliminated from the hen in their cyles which are something like one and a half weeks or similar Only IF a ROOSTER is present can they be fertilised and then will develop into chicks ! The points that a lot of strict vegans and vegetarians make is the cruelty in to keeping these hens for that purpose and just using their eggs for a couple of years and then killing them after,- HENCE, we have 'free range' where these conditons are not imposed. Their argument is that cow cruelty for supllying milk is worse because the milk is never given from mother to baby as nature intends but the mother cow is kept away from it's babies and used to supply us gallons and gallons of milk. After a few years this cow is also killed and used for meat !! So where is the real cruelty worse, the eggs OR milk ? This leads to some true strict gora veggie that claim there is less cruelty in just killing an animal from its natural environment and then eating it compared to rearing and maintaining one to use and abuse for supplying milk and then having a good weight on it for years to later use it for meat. In other words it is only kept healthy so that it can supply us milk and then later some good ounces of meat ! Where does that leave eggs ? Same kind goes on here. They keep these hens and chicks to be free and healthy supplying us their wasted eggs and then they too get killed for the meat !!

**IMPORTANT PLEASE SHARE *** AKAL THAKT DECISION ** DHUNDA** CLARIFICATION ON DHUNDA ISSUE. **FROM: United Sikh Youth Bodies UK** Over the past week, we have seen a lot of talk about Sarabjit Singh Dhunda. Unfortunately there has been a lot of very good people, with good intentions caught up in the middle. This guy is charismatic and his debates at face-value seem very convincing and heartfelt. But senior Gursikhs from all Jathebandhis etc can clearly see through him and know his true divisive intentions. We as a Quom have still not come to terms with unspeakable atrocities at the hands of the Government of India (GOI). Justice is a far dream, but a dream that can only be achieved through unity and mutual respect. A divided Quom is a helpless Quoum, Dhunda & Co. know this, and have been deliberately sent to create divisions in the UK. The GOI want large scale disruptions in Gurdwaras, they want Dastars being disrespected in our Gurdwaras, so they can then use the videos to show Khalistani Sikhs as extremists. This is their agenda. Understanding this, large scale protests have been called off by all youth groups, until there was clarity from Sri Akal Thakt Sahib. Today, Sri Akal Thakt Sahib have announced that Dhunda is to be banned from Gurdwara stages. Singh Sabha ,Southall have respected this and stopped his talks from today, a honourable decision. There are topics regarding Sri Dasam Bani etc that some Sikhs have mixed views on, hence we support Akal Thakt’s long-standing decision to ban these from discussion in public. Sarabjit Singh Dhunda, Inder Ghagga, Darshan Ragi have been invited on numerous occasions to discuss these issues in a diplomatic, sensible and constructive way with senior scholars behind closed doors. But they have never accepted this; instead they go out to divide the moderate Sikh in Gurdwaras or by making disrespectful videos. Again if any Sikh who wants to discuss the Banis of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, please contact Sewa.Support@hotmail.com, senior Gursikhs will welcome an in-depth discussion behind closed doors, in a respectful and constructive manner. United Sikh Youth Bodies UK Khalistan Zindabad

Niddar and his cult have no credibility. The funny thing is when they started their 'hatti' they used to go on about how the Singh Sabha were lackeys of the British and yet his chelay and their organisations beg for money from the Lottery fund!

"However, Harper indicated the Conservative government would take action if it detects that those Sikhs turn to violence to advance their cause." I think we'll start seeing Indian Gov sturring up trouble in Canada now. On the positive side...India is shittting!!!! :biggrin2:

In the last episode of Panth Time on Sikh Channel they were talking about the idea of a Sikh bank. A non profit bank which would invest in the Sikh community. Theres already something similar in Canada called the Khalsa Credit Union. Has anybody here used their services?? What do you guys think? Is this idea viable? We disagree with each other more than we agree so are we mature enough to run our own bank? How would we decide where the money is spent, what would be our priorities? How would we keep out corruption? I think those who are doing real seva, actually doing something for Sikhi would benefit greatly as they lack funds. Any input from those with a greater understanding of the financial sector would be appreciated. Theres many more questions but lets just start with these. :smile2: http://www.khalsacreditunion.ca/

I tie a small keski and wrap my kirpan, gatra, and kanga inside. I take a normal bath. Then once done, switch kashera, I dry off, put kirpan gatra back on and put my kanga on my gatra. Then lean over with my head in the tub and wash my hair. dry off. and ta da! It's a bit hard on your back and can be messy. I should just have a second set of kakaar for ishnaan, might be easier,

Fantastic!! Niddar and Sarbjit are very similar. who loves hinduism other one hates them..lol but the tactics used to destroy the Sikh religion is the same!!! the Singhs that made the stand, were again panthic Singhs!! Where was Dhundas boys when the need rose to stand up against Niddar????

Hey do one thing.... take lot of protein.. I don't know much as i m girl... but my brother... his intake of protein is max.. n he do gymin also and he has awsm muscles

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wjkk wjkf, veerji taran0, this is amazing work that you are doing. I did not know Nidar taught in somerset rd gurdwara. The next thing is to get him banned from leicester and wolverhampton gurdwara's. I dont have a problem with him or any one who wants to learn from him, but his parchar is totally WRONG! He will always have his followers, but he has corrupted many many people. Get him out of Wolverhampton and Leicester! Pat O'Malley, Maul Mornie and Krishna Godhania all need to be informed, this guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing a fraudster! wjkk wjkf

Perhaps because he has too many scandals in the past? I'd bet thats why.

Like a Bollywood movie, the plot is always the same. Bunch of uncles get together to form Super Singh Tiger Force Intergalactic Committee, or whatever. Some uncles hurt other uncles feelings by forcing their views, or not giving others adequate time to speak. The uncles with bruised egos, then go and make their own committees, so they are free to roar loudly like the lions they are. In the end, nothing gets accomplished. I think I've seen this movie before....is this the one where they beat each other with cricket bats and chimteh? Cuz that's my favorite.

WJKK WJKF Quick question, A friend of mine told me that in the Dhasam Granth Sahib it says that we will get Khalistan after the fourth attack on Sri Haramdir Sahib. Is this true? I haven't been able to find anything to prove this. Thanks, WJKK WJKF

Please share your views!!! I was studying Bachitra Natak, i mention here especially about Subh Bansh Barnan Dutiya Adhiyaye and Patshahi Barnan. > :respect: Guru Gobind Singh ji Patshah 10 :respect: has written in Dasam granth Sahib that He belongs to Sodhi Vansh (want to clear here i am just mentioning about Temporal LIneage not Spiritual because Bhagtas have no Vansh, Kull etc. It is same like they have one father i.e god but as we know that Temporal Father of Guru Sahib is Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib so Temporal fact should not be denied....and this is Temporal Fact) which is further continuation of Raghu Vansh (Rama Ji was also born in same vansh but Guru Sahib did not give him much importance, even haven't used word SRI but used RAAM KUMAR for him, just written KAAL PAAYE SUR PUREH SIDHAYO the same like in Guru Granth Sahib it is written RAAM GAYO RAAVAN GAYO) which is further continuation of Suyavansh. > :respect: Khalsa :respect: is son of Guru Gobind Singh and Mata Sahib Devan that means Khalsa is also part of same Sodhivanshi <- Raghuvanshi <- Suryavanshi. (Temporal LIneage) > Which means Hindu brothers worship forefathers of Khalsa (like Rama), whom Khalsa treat as Normal Human being (Not God), even in Guru Granth Sahib or like in Dasam Granth it is mentioned (KITEY RAAM SEY MET DAAREY UPAAYE) Note: If Mehta Kalyan was Idol Worshipper Hindu, this does not mean that Baba Nanak was not Temporal Son of him and if some one want to go with Mehta Kalyan Dass thought then let him go but if someone want to go with Baba Nanak's thought then how could we call him Idol worshippers? The above facts in Dasam Granth does not make Khalsa, a Hindu from any side? Does not provoke Khalsa to go for Idol Worship. Does not provoke Khalsa to Do Rama Worship or Krishna Worship etc. I don't know from where Anti Dasam People think that this makes us Hindu? RSS, VHP, etc if say that Sikhs are hindu due to this fact then what is difference between them and anti dasam people? > Fact is that Khalsa is Heritor of Raghu Vansh, and Raghu, Surya etc. who was ruler of most of parts of india upto Afghanistan and even Tazhakitan > Even By this Khalsa is actual heritor(Waaris) of maximum part of land of India. Especially, Lahore, Kasoor, Ayodhya etc Please contribute your views !!!

please singh sahiban ji its a general requests to all of you that stop putting bad comments and critising others in such a way that the way of getting closer to those closes for ever....... singhs are not made to criticise its not our job we rather put an eye on ourselves where are we going .............everybdy know Mrs. Gandhi or one can say Gandhis all over made lots of bad decisions and they paid for that too.........and not only gandhi whoever who made such mistakes shall not be spared ......... next one ll be Baba Ram Rahim for sure I am afraid that this nafrat kindaa words are making the same image as the muslims are having all over the world why should critisice others if someone does worng punish him according to his sins rather than putting such comments ..........well Namdharis got their own view i dont know why but certainly they are not right.... Even our gurus are not god they all are saints and is jesus and is muhammad ........no living creature can be a god and shall not be treated as a god ..........but that a respect and the honour we give to our gurus and their teaching to be a good, loyal , sincere, fearless human being...............

Lets complie a list of famous Sikh Sportsmen and women from around the world I'll being Milkha Singh- Infamous Olympic 400m runner Dara Singh- Famous wrestler Balbir Singh- One of the greatest hockey players of his time Bishan Singh Bedi- Very famous Sikh left arm spinner in cricket Harbhajan SIngh- Famous Sikh cricketer