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  1. Most women are mental. What's so mental about yours?
    5 points
  2. I know, but to get things moving you can start a topic on mindless things such as my wife/mother in law did this and have multiple replies. Those get a lot of replies.
    4 points
  3. Will you please consider donating 75% of your land for reforestation and growing organic food for langar? Please PM me urgently I would also like to address your misconceptions of land ownership. Please read through the end in the spirit of truth and reconciliation. You may learn something new and change your worldview! 1. To say that Jats founded these villages or were landlords or ever owned the commons, is not true. First, the Jats were themselves originally only peasant (leaseholder) farmers. To understand the Commons, Dalit land alienation and how and Jats came to own all the land in Punjab, we need to step back in time and understand feudalism and certain key events in ancient Arya, Guru, Misal, British and Indian history. 2. Let's start with ancient history. The commons were very old tracts of forest land from ancient Aboriginal times, that pre-date Aryan (Jat) settlements in what is called Punjab today. As part of the Aryan conquest and subsequent Aryan Colonisation of North-West India, most arable land was acquired by Jats by the dispossession of the indigenous Dalit tribes (in much the same way as indigenous people have been dispossessed the world over). In the caste system and the feudal ownership system, they were considered to be peasant farmers, and given Kabza of new land that was made available by expanding existing Indigenous settlements (clearing the forests). Most land on paper (whether farmed by individually by Jat men or collectively by Dalit women), was owned by the local Brahmin, Rajput, and sometimes by Khatri Traders and money lenders. These sub-landlords held a simple title to collect tax. Absolute title was held by the local ruler in right of the prevailing Imperial crown at the time (be it Muslim, or Hindu). However In the feudal system, kabza played a huge role (possession is defacto ownership in law even today). Landlords came and went and estates exchanged hands frequently between Rajas and Navabs due to war etc. Sub-landlords also changed hands. But the customary occupier rarely changed. Indeed Peasant farmers and Dalit Bastis were indeed literally considered to be part of the estate itself (when the estate changed hands; the people who lived there- and their land rights, were included in the sale!). In other words, the tenant farmer had a customary or hereditary right to the land, and the title owner was just a tax-collector with no right to either evict the customary hereditary farmer or hand it over to another, unless by consent or severe violation of law, such as treason etc. 3. As forests were considered to be valuable Imperial hunting land, it wasn't often opened up to new Kabza. What the Jats had got long ago during the early days of Aryan Colonisation, was what they still had- and the Dalits were at an advantage, as they had customary Forest rights to forage and Hunt, which the Jats did not. However, in the centuries prior to Guru Nanak, and especially during the Mughal era, more and more forests were clearcut for export and shipbuilding and the new kabza (permanent lease) for the deforested land was mostly given to Jats (whether Hindu or Muslim converts)- often at the expense of the Dalit tribe's ancient customary rights). But the actual land title was invariably in the hands of Brahmins or money lenders (as zamindars; sub-landlords), and in imperial records, absolute title was owned on paper by the regional ruling Rajas or Navabs (landlords). Dalits thus became disenfranchised of all but the Commons, which they fought for as their ancient Aboriginal right. 4. The Gurus totally disrupted the discriminatory Arya Caste system and their exploitation of Mother Earth. The Gurus redistributed land BACK to Dalit stewardship. Their Dharamshalas indeed were modeled on collective Aboriginal Forest gardening and foraging, as practised by Dalit women- with produce being used for the whole community and Langar; commercial farming was strictly banned under the Gurus, and the Jats, many of whom had lost their Kabza due to Expanding Dharamshalas and land back in Dalit hands, absolutely hated these pesky Gurus for this. (Note that upto 90% of ordinary Sevaks at Dharamshalas came from low caste backgrounds, whilst Jat-Rajputs were very few and Brahmins quite rare). Now, the Gurus achieved this great land redistribution, by obtaining absolute land grants from sympathetic local rulers. So they exercised their acquired legal authority to change the Kabza on land in their own possession, but a lot of Punjab's forests were still held by Brahmins and money lenders, on behalf of some Raja or Navab (who were not as sympathetic to the Gurus). So under the Gurus, Dalits gained the most and Jats lost the most, whilst the forests and food were no longer seen as commodities. Langar, grown at Dharamsalas by indigenous women, was feeding the hungry masses. This was revolutionary. 5. The Rajput and self-proclaimed savior of the Jat Arya Race, Banda Bahadur (believed by old, reliable Akali Singhs to have been a complete fraud), and his many Jat successors, upset the whole system of hereditary feudalism, Aboriginal rights to Commons, the Guru's Dharamsalas and the forest as a living Goddess. For thousands of years after Aryan and Muslim regimes, land had been tax-managed by brahmins and money lenders on behalf of local rulers. Now some Jats in Khalsa garb were engaged in conquest for Land and power. First, they occupied the Dharamshalas and exterminated or expelled the Dalit Sevaks. Then they warred with the various Muslim kings. Jagirs, or land grants were made to the likes of Navab Kapur Singh. Their many land conquests were documented in legal records known as "Misal" (literally meaning the accounting of conquest), and henceforth all the acquired land and money was divided between several local (mostly Jat) warlords, taking on the name Misl. Thus, these imperial Jat warlords now owned “imperial title” to most of Punjab and beyond. But unlike previous periods in history, where ruler's land would change hands but kabza holders stayed put, the Jats upset the whole system: Zamindari was abolished and replaced with "Sardariat", a new form of feudalism, wherein the new Jat warlords weren't satisfied with just being tax-collecting overlords- they wanted the land for themselves. Upsetting thousands of years of feudalism as well as respect for ancient customary aboriginal rights, they vanquished the role of tax agents and lords and evicted non Jats; especially Dalits. Jats gave themselves ownership and permanent and exclusive tenancy over the whole of Punjab. Loyal Muslim Jats and some Khatri were allowed to keep their old Kabza, whilst Dalits were evicted and rendered virtually landless. Some aboriginal Commons still existed, as they were deep in the jungles and hence seen to be worthless as revenue land- but now the Dalits had “legally” become illegal squatters on their own ancient land (like what happened to aboriginal Australia). Now- before you start complaining; "Sardariat" has nothing to do with the Gurus. It still exists in Pakistan and the Muslim feudal landlords are still called “sardars”, and Dalits Sikhs in Punjab still call their Jat Sikh landlords "Sardars"). 6. British rule: The British introduced simple title in all of Punjab apart from certain areas of the North West frontier/KPK (where Sardariat still exists today). The British introduced land revenue records managed by Tehsildars (the system still exists in rural areas). The British Crown acquired all forest land, and so either the British Crown or Jat Panchayat were declared to be owners of the Dalit's Commons, depending on where they were located. PEPSU and Dogra Kashmir and other Princely states had their own system, although valuable forest land (and thus many Dalit Commons) was reserved to the Crown. So Commons are an incredible ancient aboriginal heritage of Punjab, and were never owned or farmed by the Jats until they stole the land by conquest. 7. Now, as happens in commercial agriculture, Jat landholdings gradually reduced as a result of large families and loan defaults; Brahmins and Khatri money lenders had been gradually acquiring a lot of land. At the same time, the forest was being cleared rapidly for wood export to Britain. Dalits, reliant upon sedentary and non-sedentary gardening, foraging and hunting in the middle of the jungles, were finding themselves landless due to mass clearing of forests by the British- and Jats were not letting them access the new “village Panchayat Land” (which still happens today). So, Dalits were organising a big revolt. And the Jats were furious with Brahmins and Khatris whom they accused of "stealing Jat land", and didn't want Dalits to be given any rights. The British government, fearing revolt, were pressured into passing the Criminal tribes Act, which effectively created concentration camps and kill on sight orders for Dalit tribes, as well as the Punjab Land alienation act 1909, whereby legally only Jats (of any religion) were allowed to legally own land (as the designated “agrarian caste”). Transfer of agricultural to non-Jats was thus banned (This law is still on the books as is, in Pakistan Punjab, and in a modified form in Indian Punjab). Importantly, The Punjab Alienation of Land Act also meant that only Jats could buy up Punjab's newly deforestated land at auction at throwaway prices or even for free (Like with imperial White Colonisers in Canada, the British asked the Jats to cut the forest and hand over the timber, and in return they would get legal title). So within a few decades of British rule, all of Punjab's rich jungle was destroyed by Jats, for the British government, and many hundreds of thousands of acres of land came into Jat ownership as new agriculture land (former forest land). This can be studied by looking at Colonial revenue, forest and survey records- if you don’t believe me. Punjab’s vast forest lands didn’t just disappear into thin air! The Jats took it. These British Acts also guaranteed that Dalits could not even legally buy back their own land- and so they were rendered totally landless and became bonded indentured Labour for Jats. This helped to cement Jat dominance and Dalit slavery in the modern British legal system, inherited and carried on by India. This is akin to the legal dispossession of Indigenous people's from their land in eastern US states, combined with slavery (US natives were expelled West; Dalits were simply enslaved by the Jats). 8. Post-independence, a half-hearted attempt was made to redistribute land to landless Dalits throughout India- and was met with a fierce backlash by the Brahmin-led RSS. In Punjab, the Arya supremacist mentality was represented by the Jats (Brahmins and Rajputs Elsewhere). In other words, the Indian government and Jat Sikhs worked hand in glove to continue Dalit oppression (even as they sparred openly like the competing Arya factions that the really are- the true context of the Bhindawale movement). Very Importantly, when "degraded forest" Government land was opened up for auction in Punjab, on the claim that Dalits could benefit. ’Many Dalits' ancient Commons were on these former tracts of forests. Dalits had been farming (and caring for trees and Banyan Groves there for many thousands of years before Jat Arya even existed in India). But the auction was designed to benefit Jats; being open to the general public, Dalits could not compete with the Jats in auction. They had Zero funds, as landless slaves. So your claims of some kind of Congress Gift to Dalits is a lie. In comparison- free land grants were made to Dalits in other states. And you yourself have highlighted the underhand tactics used to prevent land from becoming Commons again; your family got a small corner, but at the expense of how many Dalit children dying of hunger? Think about that. We were doing a project recently with struggling Dalit families across Tarn Taran. Every house we went to had the same story again and again: "what did your ancestors do? They farmed and foraged in the jungle on the other side of the village from ancient times. But the Sardars (Jat Sikhs) took it away from us. When it came up for auction of the freehold title, we couldn't raise the funds. The Sardars Acquired the freehold of our own houses too and they regularly extract free labour from us and harass and molest our girls as payment)." You would know that this is common across Punjab, if you lived in India and interacted with real people on the ground. 9. More recently, due in part to Supreme court orders, Dalits got a hard-won right to bid for annual leases of 1/3 of Panchayat land (what's left of the Dalit's ancient forest Commons and in spite of tactics used to prevent panchayat land from being created) but it wasn't free: they had to pay full market rate for the privilege for a one year lease from the (Jat-controlled) Panchayat to Dalits. If you live abroad, what you may not know is that the Jats bring along the local police and thugs and either prevent the auctions from taking place, or place dummy Dalit agents to bid and hand over the land to the Jats and most horrifically - they use sexual violence. There is indeed a pandemic of rape and murder of Dalit women trying LEGALLY to farm their own ancient common lands- in which Canada's MMIW pales in comparison. See this short documentary: As an aside, the very interesting thing is how Dalits farm the Panchayat land, (when they are lucky enough to win the bid for get an annual lease): they farm collectively- by the whole community, for the whole community (every family gets an an equal share of the produce). And it is led by WOMEN. In other words, the Dalits are still growing food communally, equally, and not-for-profit and by women- the way their aboriginal ancestors did, and the way the Guru's Dharamshala's forest gardens were run. They just want to make sure that everyone has food to eat, and be sustainable in the process. Compare with Jats, commercial farmers, who are are hell bent on exploiting every single square inch of land, with maximum pesticide, for a commercial crop. It's run by men and they are reliant upon slave or migrant labour. Conclusion: I have simplified the history a bit to keep it easy to understand but it boils down to the White/Aryan Coloniser mentality of Colonise and Exploit mother Earth and indigenous peoples: grab-and-exploit as much land as possible, and enslave Indigenous people, hide behind religious garb, and resist reparations, truth and reconciliation. At least you now can no longer plead ignorance! Ultimately, the proof is in the pudding. If you have 15-20 acres, and your family hasn't lived in Punjab, nor farmed it for 3 generations, you aren't reliant on the land to put food in your mouth- you don't need the land! Let indigenous Dalit womem take care of it as stewards; it is internationally recognized that indigenous people do a great Job at protecting mother Earth as custodians. So might I humbly ask you to donate at least 75% of your land to us for reforestation and to grow organic food for langar purposes? The true Sikh would jump at the opportunity! If NRI Jats donated their landholdings to grow forests and organic langar gardens- they could save Punjab. Western born Jats are educated. They are taking part in community gardening and nature stuff. So why continue to Exploit and squeeze every single Penny out of Punjab and it's indigenous peoples? Punjab can only be fixed if and when educated and Gurmukh Jats, as the Power holding class, were to engage in truth and reconciliation. So I am hopeful that, as an educated and caring person, and as someone who has Faith in the Guru, that you will be willing to offer land. If you want to talk about donating your Land, please PM me.
    4 points
  4. I thought I would up this thread since she is "running for president" (really, she wants to be vice president). Anyway, the incident discussed in this thread is just more evidence that the Sikh community is perhaps more pathetic than any other community on the planet. Sikhs are extremely insecure and desperate for acceptance and recognition. I remember years back some stupid uncle at the Gurdwara was bragging that she is a "Randhawa" like him. If I was a Randhawa, I would not want anyone to know that she was one too.
    4 points
  5. I will be honest: the thought crossed my mind. Showing up in Punjab suddenly after living abroad for so long, and now getting away despite the entire might of the Indian government supposedly being marshaled to capture him ... it all seems a bit odd. There were definitely some people from the 80s/90s era who seemed fishy in similar ways.
    3 points
  6. Good point. In fact, in the old days, there simply were not enough birs of Gur Granth Sahib ji to go around. So prakash of shasters was done in some Gurdwaras. You can matha tek to a Gutka Sahib, too.
    2 points
  7. When you are at home, you can do ardas in front of sastar as well.
    2 points
  8. In general, no one really uses forums a lot anymore and growth is stagnant. Usually they're populated by OG users and once they stop posting and cease their activity, others tend to follow suit. There are still some socials that have engaging talks about Sikhi. You can try Twitter (X), Discord, Reddit, Tiktok, gurdwareh group chats, etcetera. Idk man. Sikhi as a whole is pretty much dying tbf. It makes sense that you'll see less engagement over time. A lot of people contend that the religion is being revived in the west, in particular by Gen Z. The zoomer lot is definitely kind of active, but they're mostly all talk and no action. It's like some kind of flex to feign religiosity. It's not just Sikhi though, it's all of 'em. Not only that, but at one point you just grow up and have more serious matters to attend to. I used to be online for hours and hours and mess around and post but now I don't even have time to do anything b/c I'm spending time with my family & getting married soon. Now, I'm just worried about making babies. Everything's a blur. There are probably others that feel the same as well.
    2 points
  9. I guess easier ways of learning have taken precedence. There are so many Youtube channels and podcasts available that people are more ready to listen for knowledge at their own leisure. There are so many great kathas available online that take months to listen, so that people may not really get the time to come here and write.
    2 points
  10. do ardas at home, do ardas outside, and do ardas at gurughar. Maybe there is a smaller gurdwara where it is less crowded and there are less programmes, that you can go to?
    2 points
  11. No I do not think so. Most Sikhs would prefer to live under a racist white regime than under Sharia rule.
    2 points
  12. Refraining from killing innocent people and raping women is not "virtue signalling." What is the purpose of massacring innocent people who are taking a train to Pakistan? What threat do they pose? How is killing people who are already on their way out of country necessary to ensure your survival? If you think it is okay to kill innocent people who pose no threat to you, then you don't believe in Sikhi. If you think it is okay to kill children or rape women under any circumstances, then you don't believe in Sikhi. It is not that complicated.
    2 points
  13. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh ji Bhul Chuk maaf ji Have been busy with exams and school, das will continue at least weekly uploads of shabads Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
    2 points
  14. Nothing really shocking from a Jihadi to be honest. Only savagery on these people really works. You have to out-muslim the muslim in this case unfortunately. It is the only language they understand. I think the only thing that will stop Hamas is complete genocide of Gaza. Not something I am proud or happy to say
    2 points
  15. In all the (rightly in my opinion) focus on targeted grooming against our own community from certain well known quarters, I think it is important that we do not forget to keep a keen eye on predators exploiting the sangat internally:
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  16. I didn't understand. I also didn't quite understand what Razib Khan was suggesting. I had never heard of him before. Is he trying to suggest that Sikhs are violent and they also "get away with it" and so therefore if someone else wants to do something violent, they should just don a turban? If so, he should look in the mirror. He's of the community that carries signs saying "Behead those who say Islam is violent", LOL. I'm guessing this is why Bhagat Namdev ji calls Muslims blind in one eye: ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥ The Hindu is blind and the Muslim is one-eyed. ਦੁਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ The Giani is the wiser of the two. p874 (By the way, Manmohan Singh translated "giani" as "the Lord Divine", I suppose to not upset the Hindus and Muslims.)
    2 points
  17. This is not in a vanity way.. but by features you can tell amongst different races/tribes. Jatt Sikhs were deffo better looking compared to M + Hs jatts.. Khatri's are not bad looking . Kashmiris have unique features ...H punjabis are not compared them to Punjabi Sikhs .. look at old pics many nana generations in their 50s 60s were strong alpha too Those khrakus Singhs were really handsome good looking. Rural village Jatt Sikhs we too.. there is fetish/jealousy amongst M + H against Jatt Sikhs .. Too bad daru/unhealthy food/drugs/belly pots have ruined Jatt Punjabis Sikhs.. But yeah i dont Sikhi can grow amongst Punjabis anymore... we will be minority in Panjab..
    2 points
  18. Been married for 9 years now, have 1 child. Ended up getting an arranged marriage with a mental chick.from India. I highly recommend sardaras from canada, uk, please if your born there, don't get married in India. I have always been positive perosn, unfortunately I married someone who basically destroyed my mental sanity, if it wasn't for my son, I probably would have ended myself. Unfortunately it your a wealthy person, it's not easy to get a divorce. I have worked so hard for my son.
    2 points
  19. Is it me or are we seeing alot of fake news? For example, here in Canada more specifically Toronto, it seems some of the news here is fabricated. There seems to be a lot of deep issues written in new articles that journalists seem to be very "passe" about.
    2 points
  20. If you are in a toxic relationship, your health is the most important. If you are financially wealthy person and you are young enough, it maybe better to cut your losses and start over and rebuild your wealth. If you divorce and you have crazy wife, she may try to weaponise your son against you. The reason you married in India is because you thought you were going to get a traditional wife. But as a westerner, you have to be mindful because you are not aware of all the covert tactics employed . At least with the sadarnis in the west, you have a better idea where you stand because at least they are more overt in their intentions.
    2 points
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  22. What information did you have about the girl before you got married?
    2 points
  23. These thoughts crossed a lot of minds and are valid. However, please listen to the podcast linked to above. It dispelled a lot these notions for me.
    2 points
  24. This might make me unpopular, but has anyone else ever considered this might all be a psyop by Indian government? I.e. what if amritpal has actually been created by Indian government as "controlled opposition" to control the narrative on khalistan. Maybe by showing him now running away, they are trying to invoke fear in Sikhs- don't bother starting any movement because you can't face the wrath of the Indian government- and they show this by having their agent (amritpal) talk big and then get scared and run when police come after him. If you look at all the media in india - they are pushing the same narrative. I think this might all be a big drama created by Indian government to make Sikhs lose faith in activism, and show rest of the world and india that there are major problems in punjab and with Sikhs across the world, so that they can then be 'justified'to do things they want to do to punjab/Sikhs (agendas to do with controlling punjab, water etc).
    2 points
  25. As other members have said, if you are going to Delhi airport then Indo-Canadian coaches is the safest bet. I would not rely on Taxis. If I remember correctly, the coach will take you to Ludhiana, it is comfortable and as it is also full of Apnay going to Punjab, you might be able to meet some other families or individuals going to Moga or the villages around. These would be good contacts in the local area and they would also understand the issues that people in your position face. The main coach will stop at Ludhiana and then a 4x4 will take you to Moga maybe a roadside Dhaba on the main GT road. From there you can get a local taxi to your hotel. The contacts could also help you connect with any lawyers who they have used who could help with any legal advice with your inheritance issues. For the coach you will be given a seat number, you might be lucky and find someone going to Moga in one the seats close by. If not the coach stops at Haveli restaurant at Karnal for food so you can use that as an opportunity to ask fellow members if they are from Moga. Otherwise the coach apart from the driver it also has a assistant who gives out water bottles during the drive up to Punjab so you could ask him if he could make an announcement to ask which passengers are going to Moga. If not, you will meet the passengers going to Jagroan and Moga in the smaller 4x4 or the smaller minibus which take passengers off the main coach onto to there. Try not to have too much luggage with you. Just take the clothes that you need to wear of the length of your trip. This will make you more flexible if you need to move to another location for any reason. Do not take any gold Karas or any gold necklaces etc. There is a epidemic of snatchings by motorcycle borne thieves and apart from the loss of gold it is possible that you could get injured if you get targeted. Make sure you buy travel insurance especially if you are going for longer than a week in case you get injured or face a health emergency. If you do not have it then some of the doctors and clinics there will take advantage of you. If your inheritance issues is to do with closing bank accounts or fixed deposits (FDs). Some banks are good but others are complete har@mzadas. Punjab National Bank are of the har@mzada variety. Make sure you know before hand what documentation you need in order to take any money out of a bank account of the person you are inheriting from.
    2 points
  26. Religion is in decline in UK (and rest of world). In another century Atheism will dominate. People don’t feel they need a religion to live by. All faiths are in identity crisis (even Islam). I think the Khalsa will save this world - read Dasam Granth. Our Gurbani can compete with this.
    2 points
  27. Ukraine has had a reduction of about 15 million in it's population. About 11 million have poured into Europe and 4 million into Russia. The Ukrainians have lost approximately 150 to 160k troops, Russia about 18-20k. The Ukrainians has a further approx 250k troops injured or incapacitated. So that means 400k soldiers are lost. The Russians are winning this war as it is a war of attrition. There was opportunity last year for a ceasefire but the US told Ukraine not to as this really a proxy war against Russia. One can feel sorry for the Ukrainians because there won't be much of a Ukraine left after this war. I think that Russia will move to occupy Ukraine as they have hundreds of thousands of troops amassed at different parts of the Ukrainian border. There will be no peace talks. The US bombed the Nord Stream pipelines. The US has deliberately f**ked over Germany a NATO ally. With friends like that who needs enemies. Now Russia is piping their gas to China and India. They are free of the financial systems of the west. They have largely de-coupled themselves from the western economies and are more self sufficient. Now the US is itching for a war against China, which they want in 2025. Just how many wars can the US want? They just don't know when to stop.
    2 points
  28. The Rehitnama of Bhai Nand Lal ji states that Guru Gobind Singh ji says that if the child of a Sikh cuts his hair, the root of his family line dries up. And if he keeps his hair, it greens. Whatever level of "Gursikh" Nimrata Randhawa's father is, his line is dried up. And going to America for greed and spending all your time earning money and not spending any time teaching your children about Satguru is not what a real "Gursikh" would do. Now if you do teach your children all you should, and they still go astray, it's on them. But that's a different matter.
    2 points
  29. How do you define religion, bro? Also, how do you define dharam? (Btw, the root of culture is cult )
    2 points
  30. It seems like there's a culture of land-snatching amongst Panjabis. I might be wrong, and I'd like to hear alternative opinions, but I think anyone investing over there needs to grasp this. On top of the external forces, one highly educated guy I met here in the UK (who was from back home relatively recently i.e. in the last 10 years or so, said something that I think is very perceptive): In a conversation with someone else about land/property back home, who was talking about governmental and mafia grabs (often co-related), he said, before even that, your own family will try and grab the land. I think people shouldn't presume any level of security there. Family muscle and contacts seem to play a big part in this.
    2 points
  31. I live in India now. In my experience the so called NGOs are the biggest chors! Followed by property agents. Hoping someone can give me an indication on the market in different areas. You can PM me if you don't want the secret info to "get out"
    2 points
  32. Non-Indian residents cannot buy agriculture land. Property dealers of India are the worst. Best way is to team up with india based NGO/Non-profit org for environmental projects
    2 points
  33. You guys know I'm not a big fan of Sikh "royals," but note how the British elites of the 1800s derived a certain pleasure out of taking someone like Duleep Singh, bringing him to England, converting him to Christianity, marrying him off to a westerner, stripping him of every last drop of his Sikh and Punjabi heritage, and watching him live out his life as an English gentleman. It was their way of flexing and demonstrating their superiority. White American evangelical Christians derive a similar pleasure from the existence of people like Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal. With someone like Haley, there is the added primal satisfaction of "taking" another group's women.
    2 points
  34. Yes, of course. Most ethnic people who gain prominence in conservative circles are obvious phonies who see that they would have little competition in becoming one of the prominent token minorities, so they take the "fast track."
    2 points
  35. It would hurt her with some republicans, but I think most conservative Americans find a special appeal in people from minority backgrounds who disown their background and heritage. Evangelical Christians especially delight in examples of people from "exotic" religious backgrounds who become extreme right-wing Christians (as Haley presents herself). On top of that, Haley married a white guy, has essentially white Christian children, etc. For conservative Americans who feel like their culture is under attack and in danger of being diluted by foreigners, they relish in examples of what used to be the norm: their own Western Christian culture erasing the culture of others.
    2 points
  36. Veer ji, spending so much energy to dress up a certain way is not that important, in my opinion. Just wear whatever simple clothing you have.
    2 points
  37. and those same biharis are now turning on their employers and raping or running away with their daughters , beating and killing their sons via drugs . They are being supported by GOI to buy land in Punjab remember these were folks who were so hardup they had to move across India to make a living , it is part of the three pronged approach . destroy the history, the economics and then the people
    2 points
  38. Come on bro. You should know what your true ithihaas is. Originally it was panj hathiar or 5 weapons of which a talwar was just one. From Nabha's Mahan Kosh:
    2 points
  39. I am not promoting it I am just emphasizing on a fact which all most all sikh youth fail to understand is what we may find today as inappropriate might be the common practice during Guru Jis time.
    2 points
  40. Never. There is no excuse. I know cases where people have gone back to maharaj because they a have made a bujjar kurheat. They’re asked how many nitnem they have missed. The panj Singh tell them that they must recite all missed nitnem then come back. Then they’ll be given amrit. I know a Singh who had to recite 30 nitnem! He missed a whole month! I don’t think you did it on purpose, so just read 2 nitnems the next time. It’s important you get nitnem kant (memorised) then you will never miss it.
    2 points
  41. My family are doing farming these days too. Or at least leasing land to farmers. They haven't started to call themselves Jutts yet. They didn't buy into the inferiority complex I guess???
    2 points
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